Dating A Burny Guitar
Jacco´s theories.The first 80s customs are from 1982. The 1982-1984 Burny's are made by a yet (to us) unknown factory. The models were the RLC-60 (in black, cherry red sunburst & tobacco sunburst) and LC-70RR (in creme white, Randy Rhoads model). In 1984 there's also the RLC65 (3 pickup custom in black).If you want to identify a custom from this period, look for these (combination) of 10 identifiers:1. Diagonal wire routing; besides 1978 Tokai made Burny's, the 1982-1984 factory is the only factory that used this method.2.
Routed 'lip' on the neck pickup cavity floor at the tenon. From the early 90s also done by Dyna made Burny's.3. Mini/small sized inlays at the lower frets.4. Square routing channel in between the pots in the control cavity5.
Control cavity shape; every factory can be identified by the shape.6. Pot codes; the first digit of the bottom row is the year of manufacture of the pot look for a 2, 3 or 4 = 1982, 1983 or 1984.7. The space in between nut and truss rod cover is bigger than on other Burny's8. The split diamond is a feature that ends in 1989 and changed for the lightning bolt diamond (as seen in your first post).
The split diamond shape, positioning & size is also different for each factory.9. Headstock shape10. 45 degree angled pointer washers ( in stead of 90 degree) is typical for both the 1982-1984 mystery factory AND the 1985-1986 Matsumoku Burny.
Burny FactoriesPostby japanstrat » Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:51 pmFinding things out about Fernandes and what factories they used is probably the hardest of all the Japanese guitars as there are hardly any serials that identify the factories that Fernandes were using so you have to use comparisons of Burnys to other known factory guitars from the same years. Like comparing the wiring channel drilling and the control and pickup cavity routing and the tenon construction and the custom headstock shape of a 1985 Burny and a 1985 Fujigen made Greco or a 1985 Tokai for instance. You can see a lot of the different wiring channel and routing designs at and atFernandes had a development link with Matsumoku in the 1980s and with Santai/Three Yasushi who seem to be just a guitar finishing factory.Fujigen have made Fernandes/Burnys according to this page. In the late 1980s/early 1990s there would have been no FujiGen Burnys because FujiGen stopped most of it's set neck production to mainly make bolt on Fender like guitars.The early 1980s FLG Les Pauls have a centre drilled wiring channel and the only factory I know of that did that was Terada. Serial number isn't too clear in that pic (1 or 7?) and don't think I've seen early white LPC's. Plus that tenon looks very much the same as a couple of Dyna built ones I had that were made 1987.Have a look at the pot codes as they can be used to date them for between 1981 and 1991. The first line tells you the resistance so M500K or similar and the second line tells you the year, month and type of pot.Second line:YM LYear = yearM = monthL = typeM = 1-9, O, N and D; 1=january, 2= february, etc, O = october, N=november and D= decemberL = K or P.
K=normal type, P=push-pullSo 52 K would be Feb 1985 and a normal pot. 7D P = December 1987 push pull pot. I did a bit of digging when I first got mine, about 5 years ago, and think they were VH3 pups for 1987 (they're usually listed in the catalogues) supposedly the same configuration as the (earlier) VH1 pups accoridng to this thread I'd bookmarked.I also had a white LPC 1989 Burny and preferred the pups in my 1987 as they weren't as harsh as the later Burny but I guess a lot would depend on what you play. I sold the 89 and kept the 87, only drawback with it is mine's a heavyweight at 11lb. Build wise they were basically the same as both made at the Dyna factory.I do like the Burny's, bang for buck they're hard to beat in the lower end MIJ's, lower end basically the fact they're cheap rather than quality of build. I also bought a VS one think it's Dyna around 1989 but the pups/pots had been replaced so can't date exactly. The QC on all I've had is good and from the stripped ones I've seen they didn't skimp on the quality of the wood either.
I did a bit of digging when I first got mine, about 5 years ago, and think they were VH3 pups for 1987 (they're usually listed in the catalogues) supposedly the same configuration as the (earlier) VH1 pups accoridng to this thread I'd bookmarked.I also had a white LPC 1989 Burny and preferred the pups in my 1987 as they weren't as harsh as the later Burny but I guess a lot would depend on what you play. I sold the 89 and kept the 87, only drawback with it is mine's a heavyweight at 11lb. Cara buka password file excel yang lupa id.
Build wise they were basically the same as both made at the Dyna factory.I do like the Burny's, bang for buck they're hard to beat in the lower end MIJ's, lower end basically the fact they're cheap rather than quality of build. I also bought a VS one think it's Dyna around 1989 but the pups/pots had been replaced so can't date exactly. The QC on all I've had is good and from the stripped ones I've seen they didn't skimp on the quality of the wood either.
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